Promoting Your Ki Society Dojo

Attracting and Keeping New Students


Ted Ehara asked on ki-info:
What have you or those in your dojo, found an effective way to get new members? What is the biggest source of new students for your dojo?
Here are some of the replies, separated out into categories. Some posts are repeated where they apply to more than one category. (last update 1/03)

Here's a book...

[Ted] For all you admin types who've been stuck with the day-to-day business and anyone else who'd like to start a dojo, here's a new book that may help. "Starting and Running you own Martial Arts School" by Karen Vactor and Susan Peterson, ISBN 0-8048-3428-8 Tuttle Publishing

Written by two karate types, it talks about establishing a school and all the things needed. You can find more info on the book at: http://www.tuttlepublishing.com/title.cgi?title_id=2475


Yellow Pages

[Randy B] We have had our best year ever in bringing people into the dojo, particularly with an offer of a free introductory class noted in our yellow pages ad. Despite that initial success we have had difficulty keeping beginners for over a month. (
See section on introductory courses for more on this.)

[Andrew] The yellow pages come through sometimes also [in addition to fliers].

[Craig] At least have a one line entry in the Yellow pages to maintain some kind of consistent advertising.

[Bob J] ...One of our instructors is in radio marketing. His opinion is that the yellow pages are for people who are looking for something they already know they want. It is the internet that will catch people who are trying to decide....

Posters and Fliers

[Andrew] We only use fliers posted by members all over town. It is the most effective way in our market. We do have a yellow pages also.

[Bob J] We made very handsome posters (one of our instructors is a commercial artist) with tear-off tabs at the bottom with our phone number and web address. I found the tabs get torn off faster when I tear off two of them before I put the poster up.

[Craig] Fliers seem to work better (than ads) in small towns especially college towns.

[Scott] I tend to put flyers up in community places (libraries, delis, my workplace, etc.) where I think a wide variety of people will see them. I think our programs appeal to a wide range of people, and I haven't found any good way of telling who will be interested. I don't even have a good idea of who will stick around for more than one class.

Many people don't realize ... that we are a non-profit organization with volunteer instructors. I write this in on the flyers I put up, and I also mention it when I talk to people on the phone or in person.

YMCA Outreach

[Jake] St Louis Ki Society is near a major university (Washington University) and for a long time had a program where we offered aikido through the campus YMCA program. The students were allowed to come to two of our regular basic classes per week during the semester. Inevitably, a few of them would stay on as regular students. I thought this was a pretty successful program as it kept a new flow of students coming in each semester.

Community College Outreach

[Scott] A couple of our dojos have done some classes through local community colleges. I taught a couple of sessions for one of those classes, and I have a couple of suggestions for making it work.

One thing to think about is whether you want the CC class joining with your regular classes or not. If the CC class is separate from your regular classes, be aware that you will need lots of help. It is one thing to teach one or two beginners in a class of experienced students. It is quite a different matter to teach 10-20 brand-new students with no experience. We found it was very useful to have several regular students come and help with the community college class. This helps with everything from extra people helping the new students with Ki tests to having someone who can do a basic attack.

We also found that the classes ended up with about half the number of students that started, which is actually a higher retention rate than we have in our normal classes. Some of the students did continue on with Ki and aikido training, either through the CC program or by joining the regular classes.

Corporate Outreach

[Bob J] A few years ago I tried something called Relaxation in the Office. Office work is stressful, and I thought people would like to learn how to take their work every day with a little less stress.

I developed a two-hour class, one hour on Tuesday at noon, the second hour on Thursday at noon. On the first day I taught four basic principles and their application to office work. On the second day, I taught ki breathing exercise.

Interestingly enough, the classes were almost entirely composed of women in support positions. I got very few men, and no one - NO ONE - in management positions.

The classes were well received, but no one ever came down to the dojo to continue training. Some people to this day tell me they still do their breathing exercise, though.

Some of you might try something like this at your work place. If it doesn't increase your dojo membership, at least it will spread Ki principles, which is what our teaching is all about. I still have a class outline, and if you want one, I will send it to you if you contact me off list.

[Bengt] On the corporate thing, I found myself bloodied against fear of liability at my work place. People wanted it - management didn't. And no manangers participated.

Traditional Advertising

[Andrew] Newspaper ads have never worked for us.

[Craig] I agree on Newspaper ads, you need deep pockets to make those work because you need to be in the paper everyday not just on a hit or miss basis. Fliers seem to work better in small towns especially college towns. At least have a one line entry in the Yellow pages to maintain some kind of consistent advertising. Larger ads, it's unclear, the cost can be quite high in larger cities.

It all comes down to having something consistently out there all the time with sufficient visibility.

[Jake] The most successful aikido school here in St. Louis is one ... that offers themselves up as self-defense specialists. They advertise heavily on radio and TV, cashing in upon people's fear and insecurities. .... They are, however, a very big school with 4 or more times the number of members of any of the other aikido schools here in town.

I don't think Ki society can (or should) try to compete for that market.

[Ted E] A few months ago I listed our dojo in a free "clubs" listing in the local newspaper. Recently the paper did a Friday section article on us, so hopefully we'll get more students. I'm a big one for free listings, since we don't have an advertising budget and can get small, free listings as a non-profit organization.

Websites & Web Tips

[Maj] We get quite a lot of contacts through our website. (Sweden)

[Craig] All I know is that the owner of the karate school that I run the Houston Ki Society program out of keeps remarking that a large percentage of the prospective students we get comment on having seen us through the website and yet he doesn't seem to get anyone through his website.

Well, I put a lot of work into our website and made sure it's listed in the common aikido dojo search locators. I continue to tinker with it (new image on front page) so it changes. His site was put up quickly by a student over a year ago and has not been touched since.

A website can be good tool, but you need to do a good job on it and maintain it or it can hurt you I think as people might judge you by the site. [Craig's Web tips are below.]

We need it because we are not in a college town nor where there is a lot of walk-by traffic.

[Bob J] Craig's post about the web site bears consideration. One of our instructors is in radio marketing. His opinion is that the yellow pages are for people who are looking for something they already know they want. It is the internet that will catch people who are trying to decide, and should be considered to be your major marketing tool these days.

I put Tai Chi into my keyword list because I get more that a few calls asking about that. Several of us have Karate in our list because people want to try aikido, but karate is the only martial art they know the name of. If you want to see a really creative list of keywords, look at the list on the Oregon Department of Corrections home page: http://www.doc.state.or.us/welcome.shtml

One other note about your web site. Check the download time. If it takes more than 30 seconds, chances are you are losing customers. My Salem Dojo web page is about 35K, is almost all text, and downloads very quickly. http://www.oregonki.org/salem.html

[Craig] Craig's Web Tips:

[Ted E] We didn't seem to get anyone through our website until about 3 years ago. Of course internet usage exploded about then. Several people now have said they discovered us while doing research into the dojo that they wanted to attend. This is our only steady means of advertising, since we don't advertise in the local yellow pages.

The important thing about a website is not only creating it, but promoting it. Sites like http://www.searchenginewatch.com/ help you find out how you can get your site recognized by internet searchers. I put up a site for a karate friend and he said that people could find his site, but couldn't find his teacher's school site. The only difference was that I listed his site with several search engines, whereas the creator of the school site didn't apparently list with anyone.

Another way to promote your site (for free) is to list with a webring like http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=kiaikidowebring for Ki- Aikido websites, but that would be tooting my own horn. ;)

[Eri] Some free(?) search engines I've heard about:

[Danny] Below are the keywords for my 'aikido in brisbane' webpage (http://all.at/aikido or http://www.geocities.com/danielajames/aikido) - I developed them after running some free (cripple ware) web position software (web position gold) which is supposed to improve you site on search engines .. lo and behold it did I actually started getting hits. Having said that this will probably ensure that my page slips further in obscurity if they are universally adopted by others in the aiki community..such is life. Other tips were to
  1. repeat the keywords in the title of the webpage and
  2. repeat the keywords in the text of the webpage and
  3. to have a domain name with similar text to the keywords and
  4. not have a page on a low subdirectory of a domain such as http://www.geocities.com/danielajames/aikido .. well i screwed up here
  5. get you site linked to from other pages - apparently the web crawlers put it all together and work out that you page is important based on this
  6. register you site on all the bitsy search engines (that don't charge money) because the bigger engines source these for their info so in return for all this useless info...please link my page ;)
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<title>Aikido in Brisbane and Australia</title>
<META NAME="keywords" content="aikido brisbane, aikido australia, yuishinkai aikido, aikido queensland, AIKIDO AUSTRALIA, YUISHINKAI AIKIDO, AIKIDO QUEENSLAND, Aikido Australia,griffith aikido, sandgate aikido, goldcoast aikido, coorparoo aikido, gentle aikido, Yuishinkai Aikido, Aikido, martial arts, ki no kenkyukai, koretoshi, maruyama, tohei , o'sensei, ki, chi, internal arts, bokken, jujutsu, ki society, shin shin toitsu, karate, tai chi, budo">
<META NAME="description" content="Aikido Brisbane, Aikido Queensland and Aikido Australia web sites listed here. Weblinks of dojos and styles of the martial art aikido. It includes Ki society, shin shin toitsu headed by koichi tohei">
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Word of Mouth

[Eri] What got me into the Ki Society was word-of-mouth. (I think it also got a friend of mine into local aikido too (no local Ki Societies).)

[Craig] Not to be underestimated.

Good Voice Mail

[Randy B] We have also instituted a pretty good voice mail system for all of our telephone inquiries and try to get back to any callers within 24 hours of their call. The message on the phone that a caller hears was written to match our yellow pages ad and was recorded by a member with acting and voice lessons so that it comes across clear and tries to impart real enthusiasm. We then track every call and try to get a demographic breakdown so we can see the type of person calling and who actually shows up. Calgary Ki Society now has about 2 years of this data on hand.

Despite that we still have some real gaps in the types of people that we would like to get to attend such as people in ages 18 to 30 and more women. We certainly aren't having any trouble attracting young people to our children's classes.

Teaching Style

(See also Introductory Courses)

[Andrew] Kashiwaya Sensei made a very important observation when teach us some years ago. He said, "Aikido is about relationships." This statement really rang my bell.

The instructor must maintain eye contact (Tohei Sensei's soft eyes). Also the instructor can only teach what is there. Meaning that you have to make sure that each student has at least some level of understanding before you go on to another thing. Also, do not talk too much. My Teacher, Tsubaki Sensei has told us over and over, "If you have something to say (as a teacher) then cut it down at least to one third!" Finally, only bring up one or maybe two points at any one time. Not many people can take in more than that without being a little overwhelmed.

[Craig] Tsubaki is a very wise man.

[Eri] My first experience with a class was horrible, because everyone was advanced and they were bumping into me as I tried (and failed) to follow along with the various exercises and taiso, and so on. I didn't come back for a year. George Simcox's class, however, was very different -- the new people were encouraged, helped, and not forced to do anything they didn't know how to do. I stayed.

Introductory Courses (and Beginners' Classes)

(See also Teaching Style.)

[Craig] I think it's pretty important not to throw people into classes where they are the only beginner if at all possible.

I know I started in a class where there were 10 beginners and 2 or 3 more advanced. We were all struggling together and it was a lot of fun to have every Wednesday night to look forward to. After a month or so, Wednesday wasn't enough and I added Tuesday. Then a few months later I started going Thursday and Saturday too. Those were a bit more intimidating as Saturday was just open practice at the time (no structure) and Thursday night was supposed to be advanced (I don't remember how I wormed into that one as a no-kyu, probably begged ;)).

As to retention rates, out of that set of beginners, I am in the only still practicing as far as I know. The others lasted a few months to several years. I think those that make the transition into other classes are more likely to continue.

[Randy B] ...We have had our best year ever in bringing people into the dojo, particularly with an offer of a free introductory class noted in our yellow pages ad.... Despite the initial success [from the yellow page ads] we have had difficulty keeping beginners for over a month. We are pretty sure that this has been due in large part to the fact that we just invite them into a regular "general" class where they may feel out of their depths or frustrated. The intro and intro-plus approaches as outlined by Andrew may be the answer to this problem.

[Andrew] This is a really good topic. We have adopted a method from the Northwest Ki Federation (Tabata Sensei's dojo) that uses a four week Introductory course to bring in new students. Over the last 24 months we have brought in almost 200 students. There is always a high attrition in our line of work and the percentage is about the same for us (before Intro and after Intro). I saw how Maui Ki-Aikido was getting so many new students into their Intro Class and Curtis Sensei told me he got the idea from the Oregon group.

Tsubaki Sensei, being a professor emeritus, is very into syllabus so he had me write one for this four week class. We modify it regularly and rotate Instructors. Maybe the best thing we do is to include as many Instructors and higher ranking students as possible. Trying to achieve a high beginner to experienced combination as possible. This is because it is very difficult for two brand new students to work together effectively. We do let them work together also, however we try to place a beginner to advanced pair as much as possible.

The class is one night a week from 6:30 to 8:30 (we rotate the night each time (M,T,W,Th). Each week we focus on one basic principle, one point, relax completely, keep weight underside and extend Ki. Then we proceed to give the students a view of Shin shin Toistu Aikido that is a broad view to show how we begin and show what we are doing as we advance. They only do one or two techniques and work on rolling and 3 or 4 hitori waza.

We charge $30 for the Intro-class and then we offer a special deal where if they wish to continue we charge them $100 for the next 3 months, give them a dojo T-shirt, and a dojo manual. Our regular fees are $50 per month. For the first three weeks of this 3 month period, we do what is called an Intro Plus class on the same night as the Intro Class. This is to help in the transition to the other basic classes. During the Intro Class they can only attend that night plus the Ki Class night. After they join, they can go all four nights of the week and so we focus on Oneness Rhythm and the basics, with more technique, we taught in the Intro Class.

We do not allow a new student to begin in a regular class unless they have training in Ki Society before.

[Scott] One thing that helps our beginning classes a lot is the number of blackbelts we have that regularly attend class. There are always at least two blackbelts and sometimes there are three or four.

This gives us a lot of options for working with beginners. There is always someone available to teach an introductory class if we have a brand-new person. If not (or if we have more than two black belts in class), then we have someone who can work with the newer (but not completely new) students as a side-class. Typically we do this for aikido classes (rather than ki classes). These sessions mostly focus on rolling, but we sometimes cover the basic warm-up exercises as well.

On other nights, everyone will stay in class together. In those cases, we try to split up and work with as many of the people in class as possible. That way everyone gets a wide exposure to different people. We all have our different strengths and splitting up gives all of us (beginners and advanced students alike) a chance to learn from different people.

[Diana] Just a note....we gear all our regularly scheduled (open) classes to fundamentals, with the intent of each individual class being geared toward those who come to it...so on some days, it may be quite advanced, and on others be almost introductory. This helps advanced students to hone their teaching skills as well as to work more on fundamentals, while giving beginning students the opportunity to work at the level that is best for them and be exposed to all levels of training at the same time.

Some days we break the class into two sections where we start with the fundamentals for everyone, then move the more advanced students into broader application faster.

We do have advanced aikido classes for students above a certain level, and additional extra mat time as advanced students move into test preparation modes.

[Andrew] Our society is based on money. So, I had to,.... move some minds to this point of view, because some members in our group wanted to have a free intro class. This is not how we think subconsciously. What we have to "Give" has value. So, in our society, we associate that value (at least indirectly but mostly very directly) with money. Emphasis to every Intro class that you are not-for-profit and that you are all volunteers, giving your time because you deeply feel it can be helpful to anybody.

[Eri] Feeling like a welcome guest in an established family (also) has its big bonus points.

[Nigel] We have had some reasonable success at the Hill End Dojo and keeping students after they walk through the door in the last year or so and maybe we have a formula that looks like it is starting to work. ... We have class sizes of 15-25 students, training 3 times per week.

We developed a policy of developing a structured program for the beginners for their first 25 lessons to 5th kyu grading. The students are split off from the rest of the class after warming up and are taught by one of the Dan grades. However, we try to keep it so that they see predominantly one person all the time, with a second senior student as back-up.

After we kept a group of students together with this program, we then developed a specific program for 4th and 5th kyu students, again with their own instructor and preferably the one that taught them from the beginning of their training. From 3rd kyu, they fall into the "seniors" class.

We have kept a good group of students together this way and they are now starting to grade into 3rd kyu. The three main keys were:

  1. Get a group of them together and try to keep them together to develop a bit of social network. It can be daunting coming into a dojo full of senior students. We tend to get periods where we get a lot of new students all at once and we try to keep a group together when this happens.
  2. Spending a lot of time with them addressing what they came into the dojo for in the first place.
  3. Give them a consistent face each time they come into the dojo. In a class of 25 students, the head sensei is maybe not the person for this. As soon as we mucked about with this in the beginner class, numbers dropped off quickly. You need someone who is there every class, rain hail or shine to be the face the students see and can relate to through to 3rd kyu, after which the drop-out rate for us is low.
There are other things we did and I am more than happy to discuss other aspects of the dojo operation which in the end help to develop a feel of a community rather than a gym. To keep some students training, this is very important.

On Testing

[JCS] The attrition rate is pretty high in martial arts, especially in Aikido[...]. Do you have students perform in front of their peers on a regular basis (not in a testing environment, but during a normal class)? Some folks have fears concerning public performance and this gets them used to doing Aikido while others are watching.

...Our mock tests are actually "tests." If a student does well, he or she is allowed to test -- but we already know if they're going to pass the "real" test. We like to keep the attitude at our mock tests very light & informal, but the requirements for "passing" are fairly demanding. We make sure that students who do the mock tests finish with a good feeling and get plenty of positive feedback. This way, they know they can pass the actual test -- which is usually more formal but no longer as scary as it might have been.

You know what though? We still only keep about ten percent of the students, like most dojos -- but we can feel good about the sincerity of our teaching (and retention) efforts.

Other Thoughts

[Craig] From advertisers, I have always heard that too much free sends the unintended message that this thing is of less value. Like you say, this is a capitalist society.

[Scott] Many people don't realize this last point, that we are a non-profit organization with volunteer instructors. I write this in on the flyers I put up, and I also mention it when I talk to people on the phone or in person.

[Andrew] You cannot really choose who comes into the dojo. How(attitude, posture, experienced to beginner ratios in the intro class) and what you teach will naturally weed out who really does not want to be there.

There is a high attrition. We have brought in about 200 new students the last two years and with strict adherence to the syllabus, one basic principle a week, and the experienced to beginner ratio we went from; 8 kids and 15 adults to 15 kids and 40 adults. The attrition rate is just plain high.

[Sharon] "at what point should we be concerned about getting too big?"

I say, Never! The dojo size will ebb and flow, and even if it gets "too big", it can quickly become too small, especially if you get complacent and end your recruitment efforts.

In the event it really does get too big, you could consider instituting additional classes taught by the senior students at other days/times. That way, different students might find different days to be most convenient, and you might end up with smaller classes instead of fewer, bigger ones.

I would also argue that having some large classes is not all that bad. Small classes are good for personal attention (some of the best classes I've taken/taught had only one student), but bigger classes provide more diversity of nages/ukes for each person to experience. They also add a certain vitality that smaller groups don't generate as easily. It's nice to mix it up a little. (By big, I mean 15-25 people. Even huge classes, like 100, are good to experience once in a while, like at special seminars, but I wouldn't want to do it regularly. That would truly be too big.)

Different Target Audience?

[Jake] As implied before, college students are good, since Ki aikido has a certain intellectual bent to it. We have found lately that we seem to be accumulating older hard-style practitioners who are tired of getting beat up. They seem to like the relaxation aspects of things, while still finding martial effectiveness. Maybe you could hang out at tae kwon do schools and talk to the older, tired-looking folks you find there. :-)

[Jake] I don't think Ki society can (or should) try to compete for [the fearful, insecure, wants self-defense] market.

Have a Committee

[Randy B] All of the information about promoting Ki Scoiety has been very timely for us at Calgary Ki Society. We recently set up a committee to examine how we market ourselves. We have had our best year ever in bringing people into the dojo, particularly with an offer of a free introductory class noted in our yellow pages ad.


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